Unless I can hook and use a mouse and keyboard to use with all games, it will NEVER feel like a PC.

kerrry Yeah it's definitely not a Premium PC if they keep all your filed stored behind a percentage of how full your hard drive is. Console is never going to be as good as PC unless they make an upgradeable console that starts at $400 but has lots of upgrade options.

Modularity on a console would still come with a HEFTY price premium. Imagine how much a GTX 1080 would sell for if Microsoft was the distributor... doesn't sound very good to me.

That being said, the exact wording was "... there will always be customers in your segment of gamers that want the best of the best, and I think that up until now the PC space was really the only place they could go to get that. They now have the ability to get that in the console space." I agree with you that PC will always be superior for the reason you stated as well as MANY more, but the statement isn't incorrect. For the first time that I can think of, consoles will have a visual experience that isn't an abomination. Devs can finally not skimp on detail, resolution, or frame rate.

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VMP Well you have to look at it this way , some people don't like the hassle of building their own PC & buying a Pre-Built PC isn't worth it at all ... So they can resort to the Xbox One X for that 4K experience .

They're not going to get a true 4k experience like Microsoft is claiming. Xbox One X's GPU is roughly the equivalent of a 1060 GPU or an RX 470 maybeeeeeeee RX 480. I had seen some posts before on Reddit comparing it to a 980 GPU so I'll just leave it at that. Neither of those cards are full 4k cards at all. They are entry 4k cards sure, but you have to sacrifice texture quality massively and even then, you're not going to hit 60 FPS @ 4k. Just won't happen. The 1080 TI GPU and Titan X Pascal right now is the 4k GPU where you can run most games at high settings 4k and still be getting 60 FPS or very close. Xbox One X is not going to hit native 4k @ 60 FPS with the GPU they have. They are just saying "4k 60 FPS" and a lot of their user base doesn't know the difference and assumes it's going to be a 4k console. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 both said their consoles were going to run 1080p @ 60 FPS; neither did at launch. If any games are going to be "4k" 60 FPS on Xbox One X, it is a non-native 4k resolution that is being upscaled. It's just Microsoft misinforming their user base (again) and people are eating it up. I don't believe consoles will be at true 4k 60 FPS until another year or two. The 1080 TI was a great jump with how cheap it is compared to the Titan X Pascal. Given AMD's Vega line soon and the rumoured Volta line from Nvidia, hopefully 4k will soon become the norm and consoles will be able to put a much more powerful GPU inside without having to skyrocket their console prices.

You're definitely right, but even with the GPU in the Xbox One X being equivalent to those cards, it has the advantage of being built for ONLY gaming with optimization specifically for one system. I really wish that 4k wasn't the aim, and instead that focus was shifted towards texture quality and frame rates. That's too much to ask for apparently. But while this console won't deliver "true" 4k gaming as most would like it, it will undoubtedly be a massive improvement over the current console, and it will be good enough to keep people satisfied for now.

Question time: does anyone know if there is an actual reason they don't just throw graphics settings into console games? Most of the games I play I would happily turn down the resolution for a few extra frames or some better texture detail:/

Yeah it's definitely not a Premium PC if they keep all your filed stored behind a percentage of how full your hard drive is. Console is never going to be as good as PC unless they make an upgradeable console that starts at $400 but has lots of upgrade options.

VMP Well you have to look at it this way , some people don't like the hassle of building their own PC & buying a Pre-Built PC isn't worth it at all ... So they can resort to the Xbox One X for that 4K experience .

They're not going to get a true 4k experience like Microsoft is claiming. Xbox One X's GPU is roughly the equivalent of a 1060 GPU or an RX 470 maybeeeeeeee RX 480. I had seen some posts before on Reddit comparing it to a 980 GPU so I'll just leave it at that. Neither of those cards are full 4k cards at all. They are entry 4k cards sure, but you have to sacrifice texture quality massively and even then, you're not going to hit 60 FPS @ 4k. Just won't happen. The 1080 TI GPU and Titan X Pascal right now is the 4k GPU where you can run most games at high settings 4k and still be getting 60 FPS or very close. Xbox One X is not going to hit native 4k @ 60 FPS with the GPU they have. They are just saying "4k 60 FPS" and a lot of their user base doesn't know the difference and assumes it's going to be a 4k console. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 both said their consoles were going to run 1080p @ 60 FPS; neither did at launch. If any games are going to be "4k" 60 FPS on Xbox One X, it is a non-native 4k resolution that is being upscaled. It's just Microsoft misinforming their user base (again) and people are eating it up. I don't believe consoles will be at true 4k 60 FPS until another year or two. The 1080 TI was a great jump with how cheap it is compared to the Titan X Pascal. Given AMD's Vega line soon and the rumoured Volta line from Nvidia, hopefully 4k will soon become the norm and consoles will be able to put a much more powerful GPU inside without having to skyrocket their console prices.

Well you have to look at it this way , some people don't like the hassle of building their own PC & buying a Pre-Built PC isn't worth it at all ... So they can resort to the Xbox One X for that 4K experience .

Travis No where even close. They should've just made their original console better.

thats all the xbox one X does....it makes the same console better...

No where even close. They should've just made their original console better.

I don't know how they can say it will feel like a "premium PC experience" when you have to pay for online, no mouse and keyboard, can't upgrade your hardware nor modify games without getting banned. If anything, it's closer to a mid-tier PC, more so for those PC gamers who just game casually on it and has no interest in those other things; except for the free online. They should have honestly compared it to casual PC gamers with a mid-tier system instead of trying to hype it up as "a premium PC" when it's missing so much to the average PC user.

Opens up many possibility's some bad some good.

Gonna be good for people that might prefer console over a computer, I know a few people that can't get along with a keyboard and mouse (strange I know, mouses are way more accurate) and they prefer controller, this would suit them well :D