Treyarch Dev Talks CoD Gun Balance and Why It’s Broken

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David Vonderhaar, Lead Gameplay Designer at Treyarch, has recently been talking with fans about a rather touchy subject: gun balance. He also had some very bold things to say regarding the direction Call of Duty seems to be going. He recently asked this question on Twitter: “True or False. Perks/ Proficiencies (like Steady Aim/ Quickdraw/ Kick) interfere with gun balance; get in the way of making game competitive.”

Apparently, Vonderhaar “feels like we could see greater gun diversity & less ‘OP’ weapons, if [he] could reserve those ‘properties’ to be part of the base gun.” He believes that “of course you have OP weapons if you can take any of the guns and make them fire faster, reload faster, be more accurate, and have less kick.” We can assume that an example of this could be the case of recoil-less weapons made even sturdier by proficiencies like kick. Instead, he suggests that “if every gun had the 1 or 2 things it did well and the 1 or 2 things it did poorly, you’d have better gun balance.” One fan asked if he considered the fact that perks and proficiencies might bring diversity to the game, which could level the playing field. Vonderhaar responded, “the guns don’t need Perks to be diverse. They can be diverse. Perks ensure they all have to be similar, so that the Perks don’t OP any one of the properties of the gun.”


Now, considering that proficiencies were introduced by Infinity Ward in Modern Warfare 3, could this be a critique of IW’s way of doing things? Or, perhaps even a critique of the direction Call of Duty has been going in general? It seems to be the case as Vonderhaar later boldly stated, “it’s the wrong way to think about it that’s comes from years of us abusing and conditioning you, perhaps, with crap gun tuning.” This also suggests that Treyarch’s next entry could be something a little different than what we’ve come to expect of the Call of Duty franchise.


Vonderhaar’s (much appreciative) transparency with Call of Duty fans is undoubtedly in preparation for Treyarch’s next title, be it “Iron Wolf” or “Black Ops 2.”


Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below. Do you feel perks and proficiencies can potentially ruin gun balance?

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Source: http://mp1st.com/2012/01/05/treyarch-dev-talks-cod-gun-balance-and-why-its-broken/

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JamyPosted:

Re-Design COD4 Take out the overpowered guns/perks EG: Juggernaut and make it more Counter-Strike Esquerish there you have a game that will be amazing.

CombPosted:

This article here gives me hope for the next CoD.

ZirtexPosted:

CoD is getting old nuff said. They make a game every year, Same stuff over and over again. I think if they took there time maybe the game would be better. CoD4 is the best CoD because it took them a while to make. I will never buy another CoD because of Black Ops and MW3. Just getting old.

TTg_cntbanusallPosted:

Distance All they need is a simple beta/demo for users to try and find flaws in! It would also increase their sales if they make beta access a pre order bonus. Then again, most people just play the beta for fun, not help.
they don't give us a beta because they know their game is sh*t! Making a beta would just let everyone know before they had to fork over the money, they would realize that they are buying the same game that they bought last year!!

What happened to good games, I remember I played cod 5 up until the beginning o last year! I hated mw2, loved mw1. I played halo two from the day it came out until the day the took it offline(lvl 47 half moon legit) that game took skill & the glitches made it more fun FYI, BxB, BXR, superbouncing!! Made the gameplay epic! Now all these games lately have sucked by. IW, BUNGIE, TREYARC need to learn from the fans & go back to the roots & relearn what made gaming so funn and addictive!

TTG_LamePosted:

Modern Warfare 3, is fine the way it is. Not boring, because of overpowered guns and perks. Black Ops was too balanced so everyone hated it. MW3 took everything that everyone wanted out of MW2. Thats what everyone wanted but people are still not happy.

LaidPosted:

DreamEndlessly
DeadlyDasher
1NF3CT1ON5
DeadlyDasher Treyarch > IW

IW > Treyarch


Only reason people hate IW is because Treyarch doesn't dumb it down for the general COD fan (take out quick scoping, kill streaks stacking with kills from kill streaks, nuke, etc)

I meant other than a sniper ^^

Everyone likes the teacher that lets them slide by and get an A without doing work.

No one likes the teacher that actually makes you work hard for the A.


Are you kidding me bro?
Taking out quickscoping doesnt have anything to do with making things hard.

In MW2 and MW3 if you get raped by a quick scoper when you have any type of gun other than assault rifle, you should feel bad for yourself.

And killstreaks stacking with killstreaks, I kinda agree with taking it out but I don't at the same time. It still KILLS that you're getting, you earned that streak so you should be able to receive the benefits from it.

And nuke? Really? If someone gets a 25 killstreak, I would rather them get a nuke. They earned it. Whether it was with gun kills or killstreak kills. They deserve it.

LaidPosted:

DeadlyDasher
1NF3CT1ON5
DeadlyDasher Treyarch > IW

IW > Treyarch


Only reason people hate IW is because Treyarch doesn't dumb it down for the general COD fan (take out quick scoping, kill streaks stacking with kills from kill streaks, nuke, etc)

Everyone likes the teacher that lets them slide by and get an A without doing work.

No one likes the teacher that actually makes you work hard for the A.


Are you kidding me bro?
Taking out quickscoping doesnt have anything to do with making things hard.

In MW2 and MW3 if you get raped by a quick scoper when you have any type of gun other than assault rifle, you should feel bad for yourself.

And killstreaks stacking with killstreaks, I kinda agree with taking it out but I don't at the same time. It still KILLS that you're getting, you earned that streak so you should be able to receive the benefits from it.

And nuke? Really? If someone gets a 25 killstreak, I would rather them get a nuke. They earned it. Whether it was with gun kills or killstreak kills. They deserve it.

DeadlyDasherPosted:

1NF3CT1ON5
DeadlyDasher Treyarch > IW

IW > Treyarch


Only reason people hate IW is because Treyarch doesn't dumb it down for the general COD fan (take out quick scoping, kill streaks stacking with kills from kill streaks, nuke, etc)

Everyone likes the teacher that lets them slide by and get an A without doing work.

No one likes the teacher that actually makes you work hard for the A.

iGodlyPosted:

1NF3CT1ON5
DeadlyDasher Treyarch > IW

IW > Treyarch
the way Mw3 came out i dont believe that anymore , world at war was 1 of the most fun cods if not the funnest cod i ever played y? because o look hes using his overpowered mp40 with juggernaught here all just even it out with my thompson with stopping power all guns even them selfs out in waw and in mw3 all guns are op am done with this sh*t of a game

ImmaBeePosted:

DeadlyDasher Treyarch > IW

IW > Treyarch