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Brad- wrote Mourinho on the Mata dilemma

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It's starting to irritate me now, we're struggling to create chances and we're not playing MATA, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to wonder why...

He should leave, I love the guy but I would rather see him play at another club then rot on our bench.

He'll probably go back to Spain, or maybe even Dortmund if they get rid of Reus in January/Summer.

I can't see Reus leaving yet at least for another year, but a deal for Lewandowski would be nice

He wants to stay though but an offer within 40-50m would probably see him leave

In all honesty, I can't see Lewandowski going to Chelsea, even if it's a swap deal for Mata. I think his destination is either Bayern Munchen or a shock move to Real Madrid (just my opinion).

Also, I still maintain that if Reus is going to leave, he'll join the Arsenal. We play very similarly to Borussia, the manager speaks perfect German (and that's one of the reason why Ozil joined us), we're adopting a German/British core now and Reus has already stated his admiration for our club and players.

Anyway, I can see Mata leaving for about 25 million.

Yeh I also believe he will go to Munich or Madrid(who desperately need a ST)

But going from Dortmund to Arsenal is a step down and he won't go in January for definite, unless it's a ridiculous offer.

So? Going from Madrid to Arsenal is a step down, but it happened.

Ozil went to Arsenal because he was unwanted at RM, do you really think he would be there otherwise?

He had offers from many other big clubs, but turned them down to play for us?

Arsenal play in the PL that was probably the major factor in his move, I mean I would rather play for Arsenal over the likes of PSG. It was also more Wenger then anything else.

Exactly, but the Premier League is also better than the Bundesliga. Plus, have you seen Dortmund this year? 9 points behind Bayern already, and I can't see them winning any silverware.

I have to disagree though, I don't think Dortmund are a step up from us.

Yeh we all knew you wouldn't agree, not really a shock is it lmao

Why should or would I agree? What credentials do Dortmund possess that make them a better team than us? Other than the fact they made it to the Champions League final?

The fans and the atmosphere they posses, their starting team, everybody respects them, their advanced youth system, off the top of my head, oh yeh they've won trophies in the last decade.

1. That's one thing I do agree with you on, their atmosphere, fans and stadium are amazing. Very few places in the world can replicate it.
2. Their starting team is good, but I wouldn't argue it's better than ours. If you actually use your head for a second instead of disregarding Arsenal you'd probably agree with me here.

Szczesny > Weidenfeller.
Gibbs > Schmelzer.
Hummels > Koscielny.
Mertesacker > Sokratis/Subotic.
Piszczek > Sagna.
Gundogan > Wilshere/Ramsey.
Flamini/Arteta > Bender/Sahin.
Reus > Cazorla/Podolski.
Ozil > Mkhitaryan.
Walcott > Jakub Blaszykowski.
Lewnadowski > Giroud.

Overall they're quite even teams. Also, Arsenal's youth academy is perhaps one of the best in Europe and we've also won trophies in the last decade.

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Brad- wrote Mourinho on the Mata dilemma

www1.skysports.com/football/news/...o-continue

It's starting to irritate me now, we're struggling to create chances and we're not playing MATA, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to wonder why...

He should leave, I love the guy but I would rather see him play at another club then rot on our bench.

He'll probably go back to Spain, or maybe even Dortmund if they get rid of Reus in January/Summer.

I can't see Reus leaving yet at least for another year, but a deal for Lewandowski would be nice

He wants to stay though but an offer within 40-50m would probably see him leave

In all honesty, I can't see Lewandowski going to Chelsea, even if it's a swap deal for Mata. I think his destination is either Bayern Munchen or a shock move to Real Madrid (just my opinion).

Also, I still maintain that if Reus is going to leave, he'll join the Arsenal. We play very similarly to Borussia, the manager speaks perfect German (and that's one of the reason why Ozil joined us), we're adopting a German/British core now and Reus has already stated his admiration for our club and players.

Anyway, I can see Mata leaving for about 25 million.

Yeh I also believe he will go to Munich or Madrid(who desperately need a ST)

But going from Dortmund to Arsenal is a step down and he won't go in January for definite, unless it's a ridiculous offer.

So? Going from Madrid to Arsenal is a step down, but it happened.

Ozil went to Arsenal because he was unwanted at RM, do you really think he would be there otherwise?

He had offers from many other big clubs, but turned them down to play for us?

Arsenal play in the PL that was probably the major factor in his move, I mean I would rather play for Arsenal over the likes of PSG. It was also more Wenger then anything else.

Exactly, but the Premier League is also better than the Bundesliga. Plus, have you seen Dortmund this year? 9 points behind Bayern already, and I can't see them winning any silverware.

I have to disagree though, I don't think Dortmund are a step up from us.

Yeh we all knew you wouldn't agree, not really a shock is it lmao

Why should or would I agree? What credentials do Dortmund possess that make them a better team than us? Other than the fact they made it to the Champions League final?

The fans and the atmosphere they posses, their starting team, everybody respects them, their advanced youth system, off the top of my head, oh yeh they've won trophies in the last decade.

1. That's one thing I do agree with you on, their atmosphere, fans and stadium are amazing. Very few places in the world can replicate it.
2. Their starting team is good, but I wouldn't argue it's better than ours. If you actually use your head for a second instead of disregarding Arsenal you'd probably agree with me here.

Szczesny > Weidenfeller.
Gibbs > Schmelzer.
Hummels > Koscielny.
Mertesacker > Sokratis/Subotic.
Piszczek > Sagna.
Gundogan > Wilshere/Ramsey.
Flamini/Arteta > Bender/Sahin.
Reus > Cazorla/Podolski.
Ozil > Mkhitaryan.
Walcott > Jakub Blaszykowski.
Lewnadowski > Giroud.

Overall they're quite even teams. Also, Arsenal's youth academy is perhaps one of the best in Europe and we've also won trophies in the last decade.

I actually feel that Dortmund have a better squad at the moment than Arsenal and think that they currently possess a stronger team than Arsenal, but with the premier league how it is at the moment, there is far from a distinct winner in the BPL, there are still about 5 teams that could go on to win it; if Arsenal do pull it out of the bag (which I personally don't think they will), they will have the chance to build further on their squad and become more of a threat to the CL in the future.

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As a Chelsea fan, you're going to say that though... Since when have you heard of a Chelsea fan admiring another big teams succession? I haven't.

I could quite easily say "well umm, yeah, I think West Ham are a better team than Chelsea because umm, well, I hate Chelsea".

Feels wrote So, anyone looking forward to the Champions League games tonight? 1234((

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Looking forward to the Leverkusen - United match!

Leverkusen are a good team and will put up a good fight and make united work for the result and if they manage to get some points out of it, United will have to get a result against Shakhtar and that's never an easy task!

Yeah, the only problem with that fixture is United are such a boring team to watch in the Champions League!

I'm mainly looking forward to the RM - Galatasaray game. Should be interesting, and we get to see the Big Drog and Yilmaz.

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BM (1-0 ATM)
Juve
Bayern Leverkusen
City

Vepr wrote I honestly think Leverkusen could pull a win tonight against United, United are missing some key players, and away at Leverkusen isn't an easy match, i know united won 4-2 at home, but they did conceded 2 goals, which shows that Leverkusen are a threat.

Even though i can't watch either games, I'd'd rather watch Man city vs Plzen because city have great attacking football, whereas United are boring to watch and they actually might lose there game.